In this episode, Sarah and Louise discuss Chapter Fourteen of  “The Primal Wound” by Nancy Newton Verrier and then they speak to Rachel Atiemo-Obeng.Rachel Atiemo-Obeng was born In Southfield Michigan, a suburb of Detroit, adopted as an infant, and raised in Midland Michigan. She received her M.Ed. with emphasis on Applied Behavior Analysis from Arizona State University, and has worked with special needs children for over ten years in clinical and school settings. She has recently relocated to Los Angeles California where she works as a Special Education Paraeducator and Special Education advocate for California Connections Academy. She is also pursuing her passion as a singer/songwriter, going by the artist name Rachel AO for her works. Here's our affiliate link for Buzzsprout:  When you sign up, you get a $20 Amazon Gift card.And if you want to support our show, you can go to our Patreon Page.Thank you to our current Patreon's for their support.  They are: Laura Christensen, Barbara Frank, Ramona Evans, Linda Pevac, Blonde Records, Denise Cruz-Castino, Daphne Keys, Denise Hewitt and Ron Schneider.Reckoning with The Primal Wound: Official TrailerSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/themakingofmepodcast?fan_landing=true)