The COVID-19 crisis is testing our political leaders like they have never been tested before. Leaders who appear to score high on narcissism and low on empathy are failing dismally. It is interesting that those political leaders, especially female leaders, who combine competence, transparency and empathy and are using data and science to inform their decision making appear to be performing much better. The brilliant Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic is my guest on this week’s episode of the podcast. Tomas is an international authority in psychological profiling, talent management, leadership development and people analytics. Tomas has also written 10 books including his most recent, “Why Do So Many Incompetent Men Become Leaders?”, and is one of the most knowledgeable interesting and engaging people in our field.In our conversation Tomas and I also discuss: Why digital transformation is primarily about people and not technology and what this actually means for leaders, HR and employees Why skills is a new currency and why learning is paramount How people analytics can be integrated into other fields, such as diversity and inclusion How to stay on the right side of creepy when it comes to AI and analytics What HR needs to do to drive more valueThis episode is a must listen for anyone interested in ethical and empathetic leadership and the role of HR and how both will need to evolve as the use of data, analytics and digital technologies become widespread in our organisations. So that is Business Leaders, CHROs and anyone in a People Analytics, HR Business Partner or Talent Acquisition role.Support for this podcast is brought to you by Insight222. To learn more, visit https://www.insight222.com. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.