Abu and Leo are joined by Elaine from Nerd Cookies to explore a philosophy that is core to the Dune universe: to truly know something, you have to push it beyond its limits. This idea is present across all the novels and applies to everything from characters to equipment to ideologies.This episode contains major SPOILERS for all of Frank Herbert's novels.Check out Elaine's amazing videos on Dune lore: https://www.youtube.com/c/NerdCookiesThis podcast is part of the Lore Party Podcast Network. Visit our site to learn more: https://loreparty.com/