So in this episode of Rethinking Humanitarianism, host Heba Aly sits down with donors to talk about humanitarian reform priorities from their vantage point – and how funding policies can be part of the problem.    Aly, director of The New Humanitarian, talks with Michael Koehler, deputy director general of the European Commission’s humanitarian aid arm ECHO, and Ruairí De Búrca, director general of Irish Aid, to find out what it’s like to be in their shoes: what does the political economy of UN reform and localisation look like from a donor perspective; and how would they address rising needs at a time of likely shrinking donor budgets?