Dr. David Steen works for the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission where he leads amphibian and reptile research efforts. Chris and Dave talk about how persistence and hard work led to a diversity of experiences and jobs as he worked towards his current position. They talk about some of the species that his group prioritizes and how they develop those priorities. Dave also has created a Foundation called Living Alongside Wildlife and they discuss the grant-making approach the foundation employs. Finally, Dave has published a book on snake myths and he discusses issues covered in the book, such as how the size of snakes are typically grossly exaggerated and what science tells us about the true size of snakes.