Kevin Dames went to Fresno State as an Exercise Major, then moved to Colorado to get his PhD  in bio mechanics. He now teaches others about how humans move and why they move that way, as well as applied statistics and research methods.  He now lives in Cortlandt New York and allegedly occasionally hangs with Ian Golden and crosses paths with Ellie Pell.  Translation: he is a cool dude. We talk apples, running, Ithica, running gate, and science.  Plus what its like to run when you know the science behind your bonk. Here is an article from Roger Kram on the effectiveness of using poles https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31020400/ We’re on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/44etXyR0WbJtmKRKrP7V6M We’re on iTunes! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cultra-trail-running/id1446356779 Please support Cultra Trail Running Podcast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/CultraTrailRunning Strava: https://www.strava.com/clubs/CULTRA Twitter: https://twitter.com/blueblazerunner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultratrailrunning/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CultraTrailRunning/ Call the Karaoke Line at 203-DOG GENT Intro and Outro music by Nick Byram, Vocals Jack Byram, and beats Jack Sevigny beatstars.com/sev_beats