In this episode Charlie chats to the American grazier & educator Jim Gerrish. Jim takes us on his regenerative journey and recalls the moment, when he realised that the aroma of freshly turned/ ploughed ground he had always liked growing up  was in fact the smell of the earth dying...this proved to be the turning point in his life. Jim's  journey is a captivating one which touches on human health & diet, food definitions, changing farm practices and a whole lot more.  To start a dialogue and converse more about topics raised in this podcast, please visit The Regenerative Journey podcast facebook group.  Episode Takeaways  We don’t need feedlots. We just need people who have grazing management skills to take a pasture and turn it into delightful beef | In research we don’t call it  a cow pie/cow pat, it’s a SEE...a Single Excretory Event! | We don’t need new knowledge, we need to be applying what we already know | The whole idea that beef cattle are destroying the environment is only tied to feedlot phase of it | The methane thing is a real red herring with grazing cattle, feedlots it’s a problem. It's the production model not the ruminant animals that are the problem | Grass feeds the grass, grass feeds the soil, then grass can feed the livestock| Human health is instrincically linked to soil health.  Links Jim Gerrish - American Grazing Lands LLC   Maia Grazing - Grazing management tool  Dr. James Anderson - Scottish agriculturist in 1700’s Diana Rodgers - Sustainable Dish Sacred Cow - Film project led by Diana Rodgers