Today’s show deals with the sometimes confusing, sometimes misleading term ‘DevOps’. We chat to Brain Guthrie who has worked at a host of different big companies including Soundcloud and ThoughtWorks and has many years of experience in and around the fields that the term DevOps is supposed to bridge. Is DevOps a goal? Is it a job description? Is it a part of the work of both the development and operations teams? We try break this down and get to the core of the idea. During the episode we also try to imagine how DevOps can fit into a more holistic approach in companies and Brain gives us great insight into the way he envisaged the subject being useful. So jump right into The Rabbit Hole, let’s go!