If You're Never Getting Rejected You're Not Controversial Enough

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If You're Never Getting Rejected You're Not Controversial Enough

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Jul 5, 2018

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This week we didn't start out with a theme topic,
but spent time discussing conferences around the world as well as whether too many diluting proposals are going through the standards process.
Also, is it actually easier to get a library into the standard than Boost?
What really was the moral of the story of the Vasa?

Released:

Jul 5, 2018

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155: Done is better than perfect: In this week’s episode we get a little bit philosophical as we discuss the concept of done being better than perfect. This week’s episode comes by way of a listener comment, despite knowing that their design will only really come together in the end stage, they have a nagging doubt in their head that the project should look perfect at every step of the way. We discuss how we have overcome this doubt ourselves in the past and how done is better than perfect can often be good enough. by Design Life
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