Our guest this week is Dr. Traci Scheepstra , CEO and co-founder of Embodied Learnings. Joining Julie this week is our effervescent elementary lead and resident chair yoga expert, Nathalie Lauriault. It’s her first episode of Conceptually Speaking and we could think of no one better to join Tracy in a dialogue exploring the relationship between affect, embodiment, and education. Following a trend of some of our recent episodes, Dr. Scheepstra's message is one that invites and encourages us to take a step outside our current brain-bound conceptions of learning and consider all that is lost when we treat learners as though they’re merely a brain in a vat. It’s a conversation filled with practical tips and thought-provoking ideas, but the main through-line is how we can help students feel their learning, not just think about it. So, in the spirit of the episode, find a calm, quiet place to listen, close your eyes, and prepare to feel the conversational wisdom being weaved for the next fifty minutes.