Amanda Palmer presents an intimate conversation with Jamil Zaki, recorded remotely on April 11, 2019 in Woodstock, NY and Stanford, CA.Jamil Zaki is a professor of psychology at Stanford University and the director of the Stanford Social Neuroscience Laboratory. By combining psychology and neuroscience, Jamil and his colleagues study how empathy works, and ultimately how we can empathize with each other more effectively.Jamil is the author of "The War for Kindness: Building Empathy in a Fractured World."Jamil’s 2017 TEDxMarin Talk is entitled “BUILDING EMPATHY: How to hack empathy and get others to care more.”His writing has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, The New Yorker, and The Atlantic.We talked about how to flex your empathy, art as a performance enhancing drug for empathy, post traumatic growth, and the high wire act of having empathy for those who cause us harm.@zakijamThe War for Kindness: Building Empathy in a Fractured Worldhttps://www.warforkindness.comTED:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DspKSYxYDMStanford Social Neuroscience Lab:http://ssnl.stanford.eduNo ads.No sponsors.No censorship.We are the media.Exclusive content is available to Patrons only.Go to Patreon.Become a member.Get extra stuff.Join the community at amandapalmer.net/podcast