It is difficult to understate the scale of the social catastrophe looming in Britain, with an estimated 45 million people - a large majority of the population - facing being driven into poverty. Just what is the reality of the disaster about to unfold, what will it mean in practice - and can it be stopped?We are joined by Miatta Fahnbulleh, chief executive of the New Economics Foundation, and Lewis Ford, a public sector worker backing the Don't Pay UK campaign.Please subscribe - and help us take on the right-wing media here: https://patreon.com/owenjones84Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-owen-jones-podcast. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.