A concept developed by 19th century philosopher Friedrich Engels, does social murder describe the avoidable deaths of so many people all over the world in this pandemic?We're joined by the executive editor of the British Medical Journal, Kamran Abbasi, who has written a seminal article, asking if governments are guilty of "social murder"; Camila Asano, the co-author of a study into Brazil's catastrophic response to COVID_19, and Jamie Brown from the COVID-19 Bereaved Families for Justice UK, who lost his father to the virus.Help us take on the right-wing media here: https://patreon.com/owenjones84​Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-owen-jones-podcast. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.