Anna Whitehouse is a journalist, author and radio presenter and thefounder of Mother Pukka, 'a platform for people who happen to beparents'. She is a long-term campaigner in the fight for flexibleworking for everyone.We talked about the concept of family and how you can get trapped intobelieving that 2.4 children and a white picket fence equals happiness;we discussed flexible working hours and how other countries do itbetter (yes I'm talking about the Netherlands and Sweden again!) andwe agreed that it is time to end the 1950s hapless dad trope - or asshe put it, "men don't want to just spunk and leave, they want toparent!" Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.