Episode Description In this episode we speak to Richard Kerr who is the Director of Travel Rewards for Bilt Rewards. He gets a little nerdy with us and pulls back the curtains a bit into the other side of travel loyalty programs. What goes into developing a great program and how it may be different than you think. We also dive into Bilt Rewards including how it works and why it is different than other "rent payment" services that have come before. We also talk family RV travel on the heel of Richard's recent 40+ day RV trip and discuss the brand new Capital One Venture X card including what we like and some of the questions we still have about this premium card. Find more about Venture X here: https://milestomemories.com/capital-one-venture-x/ Episode Notes 2:28 - Talking Atlanta & Braves World Series Win 7:39 - Richard's long stories background in points & miles 11:12 - Working directly with 2 U.S. presidents 12:06 - How Bilt allows you to earn rewards on rent 17:04 - The Bilt Mastercard, ecosystem & transfer partners 20:49 - Behind the scenes of the formation of the Bilt loyalty program 24:28 - Pulling back the curtain on loyalty programs - the other side 27:49 - The RV lifestyle and family road trips 31:32 - Over the top campgrounds and the ones that are scary 35:07 - Planning a 40+ day family RV road trip 37:17 - RVing and camping at Walt Disney World - Worth the effort? 42:49 - New Capital One Venture X card 46:49 - Unique tech behind Capital One's travel portal 49:39 - Will Venture X Keep People in Capital One's ecosystem? 54:22 - How to apply for Venture X & support MtM Enjoying the podcast? Please consider leaving us a positive review on your favorite podcast platform! You can also connect with us anytime at podcast@milestomemories.com.  You can subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Sticher, Spotify, TuneIn, Pocket Casts, or via RSS. Don't see your favorite podcast platform? Please let us know! Music: Rewind by Jay Someday | https://soundcloud.com/jaysomeday Music promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.com Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License