This week we talk to Nadine Smith from the Centre for Public Impact about how government needs to change in order to get fit for the 21st century. Nadine offers a compelling take on how a lack of empathy and humanity in our institutions is creating challenges for their legitimacy. This can be seen in Brexit but also in plenty of areas of public life and Nadine has been talking to governments around the world about how they can become more human at a time when artificial intelligence is on the rise. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.