The code is not a lie. Join Chris B and I as we chat about how tf we have the SAME story? Cool! Starting with Linux in HS to doing some scheming to finally finding ourselves at the 2019 Clojure Conj. He opens the portal into portal which is the cool kids introspection tool that you always wish you had! Fun chat! 
Some links:

https://vimeo.com/223309989 = Stu's talk about programming at the REPL
https://vlaaad.github.io/reveal/
https://github.com/djblue/portal