This week is very special. We have Julia Furlan, who currently is working on podcasts for Vox Media, and Katie Notopoulos, senior reporter for BuzzFeed News. They once worked on a podcast with Ryan called Internet Explorer. So if you liked that podcast, you'll probably sorta kinda like this one too. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thecontentmines.com/subscribe