Jeremy talks to Patrick Kindlon, a comic-book writer and musician.

During this episode they discuss how Patrick first got into comic books at the age of four, his favourite comic books and why he thinks they are still so popular. Partick also delves into his life whilst attending catholic school, becoming interested in music after listening to Elvis Costello in the record section of his local library. The pair also talk about Patricks first band, Turnstyle, the importance of playing to crowds that dislike you, and curbing your pride if you want to be financially successful.

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