On episode 11 of Out & About we are joined by the iconic Haley Sacks aka Mrs. Down Jones (10:20-44:13). She explains how she became a financial pop star, her history with Pat, and her friendship with Erika Nardini. She also explains what kinds of gifts you should buy for your significant other during each phase of your relationship. Prior to Haley, Pat and Kate discuss the Elliot Page news (1:08 - 05:12) as well as the Hungarian orgy (5:13-10:19). Later, Captain Cons joins the show for a Real Housewives of Salt Lake City recap (44:28-1:01:53). Be sure to like, rate, subscribe, and download!!!