Season 4, Ep 9: One of Australia's top broadcasters joins Adam and Geoff in South Africa's southern city of Port Elizabeth, in a long-form interview to discuss it all. The art of the call. The nature of stories. Choosing joy over angst. The 1989 Grand Final. How to pick an election, and how to call a Superbowl. Cool Runnings versus Rocky IV. Staying grateful in the grind. The importance of sport, and of a broader view. Then we look at the South Africa v Australia series, poised at 1-1 ahead of the Cape Town Test.

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