Jundo and Kirk discuss tradition in zen. What are those funny sticks that the zen masters have, and what are they used for?
Treeleaf Zendo (https://www.treeleaf.org)
Shippei (https://terebess.hu/zen/szoto/targykult.html)
Jundo on the Secular Buddhist Podcast (https://secularbuddhism.org/episode-233-jundo-cohen-religious-secular-buddhism-the-best-of-all-worlds/)
The Zen Master's Dance (https://amzn.to/3H2vNKp)
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