"I talk about why I had success in Boston—it’s a 26.2-mile race that this year felt like 30, right? You add in the wind, and the conditions, and it suddenly feels longer, which is part of why I have this advantage in my mind. And so why not test that theory out in the actual distance? I think I can finish a marathon feeling like I can probably go another 10 miles, I just couldn’t go a lick faster, so let’s see how far we can extend that. I think those are all intriguing to me."I'm super excited to welcome my first returning guest back to the show: 2018 Boston Marathon champion Des Linden. Linden and I last spoke on Episode 3 in late January, a couple months before she won the race that changed her life. A lot has transpired since she broke the tape on Boylston Street in mid-April, including the launch of Linden & True Coffee, a coaching change, more media appearances than she can remember, and a sixth-place finish at the New York City Marathon a little over a month ago.Linden and I caught up recently at The Running Event in Austin, Texas and talked about all of those things in great detail and then some, including where her scrappiness and competitiveness come from, why her win in Boston was so validating, the importance of having confidence, trust, and faith in yourself on race day, the advantages of training in a group versus training alone, how her training has changed since leaving the Hansons-Brooks Distance Project, what the rest of her competitive marathon career looks like and why ultra-distance races appeal to her, what's exciting her in running right now, why it's important to tell your story, and a lot more.Music and editing for this episode of the morning shakeout podcast by John Summerford at BaresRecords.comThis episode is brought to you by Maurten, the sports fuel used by many of the world’s top marathoners, including Eliud Kipchoge, Mo Farah, Mary Keitany, and this week’s guest, Des Linden, to name a few. Maurten has set up a special contest for listeners of the morning shakeout where you can win heaps of free product. Here’s what you have to do: Go to maurten.com/AMshakeout and register with your email address. At the end of Maurten’s 4-week sponsorship of this podcast they are going to draw 10 winners at random. Each winner will get a full box of 160 drink mix, a full box of 320 drink mix, and a full box of GEL 100s. That entire package is valued at over $130! Enter for your chance to win at maurten.com/AMshakeout.Complete show notes: https://www.themorningshakeout.com/podcast-episode-40-with-des-linden/Sign up here to get the morning shakeout email newsletter delivered to your inbox every Tuesday morning: www.themorningshakeout.com/subscribe/Support the morning shakeout on Patreon: www.patreon.com/themorningshakeout Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.