Selina Sanders is back for the final installment of our conversation.  She will explain all the ways she makes her business as sustainable as possible.  And why she thinks every brand, designer, and maker should give back to the community.  It's a must-listen for anyone who has their own brand or is thinking about starting one.  She also shares her vision for the future of fashion (and our world). We ask "can a big business ever be truly ethical and sustainable?"  Selina gives a shout to Alabama Chanin as a brand who is doing things the right way by passing on exponential growth in favor of sustainability.  Also: Diane von Furstenberg's past few years are not dissimilar to the decline of Delia's.  Amanda gives a special report.And:  the world's richest people have the biggest carbon footprint, but the poorest people bear the brunt of climate change.  Read more here.If you want to support Clotheshorse via Patreon,  you can find out more details at here. Your support will keep the show going!  And you’ll get access to exclusive episodes, the weekly “extra credit reading” newsletter, and some rad swag like “don’t give money to assholes” stickers and “proud outfit repeater” pins.  Do you have some feedback?  An episode idea?  Do YOU want to be a guest on Clotheshorse?  Drop us a line at clothehorsepodcast@gmail.com.  Or DM via instagram @clotheshorsepodcast. And guess what? We now have a 100% Super Official Clotheshorse Hotline. Okay, it’s really just a voice mail box. But if you have a question or a story that is too complicated to write down, then this is the place to share it! And we might play it on the air!  The phone number is 717.925.7417. Give us a call! Even if you just want to say hi or tell us something random. Don't forget to check out our sister podcast, The Department.  We talk about trends, taste, weird things that make us laugh...it's a nice  fun listen during otherwise weird lonely times.  Clotheshorse is brought to you with support from the following incredible independent sustainable brands:Salt Hats, purveyors of truly sustainable hats. Hand blocked, sewn and embellished in Detroit, Michigan.Picnicwear, a slow fashion brand made by hand in NYC from vintage and deadstock textiles. Picnicwear strives for minimal waste but maximum authenticity. "Future Vintage over future garbage!"Shift Clothing, out of beautiful Astoria, Oregon, with a focus on natural fibers, simple hardworking designs, and putting fat people first Discover more at shiftwheeler.com.