It's part two (of three) of our conversation with sustainable designer Selina Sanders.  She shares her stories of being embedded in Chinese factories, the pettiness/ugliness of the fashion industry, and the saga of the $5 beaded sandals continues!Also, Amanda answers listener Elena's questions about Fair Trade.  Just like everything else we discuss around here, Fair Trade is both opaque and complicated.Please send us your questions, feedback, and episode ideas!  Drop us a line at clothehorsepodcast@gmail.com.  Or DM via instagram @clotheshorsepodcast.Thank you so much to everyone who as supported Clotheshorse via Patreon!  If you're interested in joining this illustrious group of rad people, check out all of the details here.  Don't forget to check out our sister podcast, The Department.  Amanda co-hosts it with Kim.  This week’s episode is about candy and someone may or may not have almost peed her pants from laughing. Clotheshorse is brought to you with support from the following incredible independent sustainable brands:Salt Hats, purveyors of truly sustainable hats. Hand blocked, sewn and embellished in Detroit, Michigan.Picnicwear, a slow fashion brand made by hand in NYC from vintage and deadstock textiles. Picnicwear strives for minimal waste but maximum authenticity. "Future Vintage over future garbage!"