All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series The trick to getting the attention of CISOs is to create an awesome company. Focus on that and the attention will follow. This week’s episode is hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis (@csoandy), operating partner, YL Ventures. Our guest is Katie Stebbins (@ktlgs), board president, Global Epic. Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Kenna Security Kenna Security, now part of Cisco, is the pioneer of risk-based management. The Kenna Security Platform enables organizations to work cross-functionally to determine and remediate cyber risks. It leverages machine learning and data science to track and predict real-world exploitations, empowering security teams to focus on what matters most. In this episode: So, how do you become so awesome that you can't be  ignored? What happens when you expand your view of the purpose of security metrics? Is it possible to have a Digital Geneva Convention?