This episode seeks to explore the phenomenon of spiritual forces, demons, and disease. But not so much from the "are spirits real?" perspective but from the position of assuming they are real and thus an exploration of what are they and how they operate on the human being.  For this exploration, we welcome Are Thoresen, a veterinarian, acupuncturist, and scholar of anthroposophy. Are is also recognized as an expert in spirit entities and demonic possession, with a particular focus on their role in illness and healing. (...FULL EPISODE BREAKDOWN BELOW...) Of course, the ongoing skepticism of the "realness" of all this is present throughout this discussion as I, your host and interviewer, am not sold on the whole thing. At least not in the beginning, my heavy skepticism waning towards responsible ambivalence by the end of it all. *** That said, I invite people to please keep their higher reasoning intact fo this interview as, real or not, getting obsessed with the presences of "demonic forces" and "battles between good an evil" can take us down dangerous roads psychologically. ***   --LINKS-- For full blog entry, all relevant links for this episode, and to watch this episode in video: https://bit.ly/ATTMind102   --- SUPPORT THIS PODCAST —  Patreon: https://patreon.com/jameswjesso Donations: https://www.paypal.me/JWJesso Merchandise: https://www.jameswjesso.com/shop/ More options: https://www.jameswjesso.com/support/     ---EPISODE BREAKDOWN--- An introduction to Are’s work with spirits and the spiritual healing The dangers of “translocation” of sprits in healing "We are an expression of the spiritual reality" Icelandic elves Belief doesn’t necessarily make something real “the spiritual world is not energy” How spirit entries are created What qualifies some spirits as demons The different between translocating  and transforming demons in the healing process Bacteria and fungi are/have spirits Are spirits/demons “intelligent”? “I consciousness” and protecting yourself from spirits/demons What it feels like to be in “I consciousness” How to see spirits What psychedelics do to the body/mind insofar as encounters with sprits Why psychedelics, eventually, hold you back If disassociation / loosing “I consciousness” is dangerous to the soul, what about the positive benefits of ego dissolution and mystical encounters with psychedelics? How to tell the difference between benevolent and malevolent spirits and how to tell the difference What does any of this even matter if it can be proven one way or another?   --- OTHER LINKS —    Website: https://www.jameswjesso.com/ **Speaking Tour**: https://www.jameswjesso.com/events/ Podcast: https://www.jameswjesso.com/podcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jameswjesso Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/attmindpodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jameswjesso   --- PRODUCTS —    Art: https://www.jameswjesso.com/product-category/art/ Teeshirts: https://www.jameswjesso.com/product-category/clothing/ Lectures: https://www.jameswjesso.com/product/psychedelics-ritualistic-suffering-and-the-meaning-of-life-lecture/   ***Music during intro:  Navajo Night by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution licence (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) Artist: http://audionautix.com/