In episode eleven of The Robot Brains Podcast we are joined by Alison Gopnik, professor of psychology at UC Berkeley and author of the "Mind and Matter" science column for the Wall Street Journal. She has written numerous books about developmental psychology and researching the ways children learn. Her TED Talk: "What do babies think?" has been seen over 4.2 million times. During her conversation with our host, Pieter Abbeel, we discussed the similarities and differences between the way robots and human children learn. We also covered some the methods for testing what a child and a robot actually knows, the theory of the mind, and whether a robot can ever truly be curious? Host: Pieter Abbeel | Executive Producers: Ricardo Reyes & Henry Tobias Jones | Audio Production: Kieron Matthew Banerji | Title Music: Alejandro Del Pozo See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.