In this special episode of the New Statesman Podcast, in association with Smart Energy GB, Ailbhe Rea and guest co-host Philippa Nuttall discuss how the ways we use energy in the future will change, and what we can do to make sure that change benefits everyone including the most vulnerable.They are joined by Liberal Democrat Energy and Climate Emergency Spokesperson Wera Hobhouse and Iagan Macneil, from Smart Energy GB, to talk about what changes could make a difference, and what action needs to be taken now to make that change happenSmart Energy GB is the not-for-profit, government-backed campaign helping everyone in the UK understand the importance of smart meters and their benefits to people and the environment. Their national campaign is reaching homes and small businesses across England, Scotland and Wales. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.