Rob and Jason are joined by Daniel Ruoso and Bret Brown from Bloomberg. They first talk about Jason's new Object Lifetime Puzzle book and a blost post from Kevlin Henney on Agile processes. Then they talk to Daniel and Brett about their research into using Modules at Bloomberg, and some of the changes still needed from compilers and build systems to use Modules in large scale software development. News Boost v1.78 Object Lifetime Puzzlers Book 1 Agility ≠ Speed Links p2409: Requirements for Usage of C++ Modules at Bloomberg p2473: Distributing C++ Module Libraries What Agile is Actually About? CppCon - Lessons Learned from Packaging 10,000+ C++ Projects - Bret Brown & Daniel Ruoso - CppCon 2021 CppCon - Modern CMake Modules - Bret Brown - CppCon 2021 Sponsors Use code JetBrainsForCppCast during checkout atJetBrains.com for a 25% discount