Mike Daum joins Phil and Timur. After some community news, including the state of modules support in CMake and a new compile-time parsing library inspired by Rust's macros, we talk to Mike about CppNorth - what it is, how it got started and what makes it different - then about company cultures, a new language from Epic, and the importance of catering to "Dark Matter Developers". Show Notes News ACCU Schedule and registration CMake blog post about the state of C++20 Modules support P1689R5 "Format for describing dependencies of source files" "Macro Rules" - compile-time parser library from Max Pasichnyk Reddit discussion of Macro Rules Links CppNorth CppNorth mentoring email CppNorth mentoring channel on Discord "The Analogy of the Beekeeper" - please let us know if you find a link for this! Verse, the new Unreal scripting language Talk on Verse, by Simon Peyton Jones "C++ Software Design" (book) - Klaus Iglberger