My guest this week is the designer Willie Norris.She’s known for her eponymous workshop and is also the design director of the New York brand, Outlier.Willie and I discuss the importance of humor in design, designing for a community, rethinking what a clothing brand should be.NYT ArticleOutlier**Sponsored by Standard & Strange – Get the facts on denim ? hereandSponsored by Topper Jewelers check out their curated picks of all the watches from No Time to Die.**