There may not be a workshop or podcast that exists where Suzanne doesn't bring up The Soul of Shame. So it is long overdue that the author, Curt Thompson, enneagram four, joins the show! With a considerable dose of warmth (and surprising measure of humor), Curt weaves together an understanding of interpersonal neurobiology (IPNB) and a Christian view of what it means to be human — to educate and encourage others as they seek to fulfill their intrinsic desire to feel known, valued and connected. He understands that deep, authentic relationships are essential to experiencing a healthier, more purposeful life — but the only way to realize this is to begin telling our stories more truly. After listening to today's episode, be sure and go find your copy of his newest book, The Soul of Desire! Book and Podcast Tour 2022! Join the Enneagram Godmother on the road next year for The Enneagram Journey Toward Wholeness tour. Friday night community and live podcast recording followed by Suzanne teaching on Saturday. Be sure and visit Lifeinthetrinityministry.com for information and to buy your tickets beginning November 2nd. Today's show introduction: Kelly Harp from Episode 96 of the podcast (December 2020) Peter Griffin on Family Guy, episode "Hot Pocket Dial" Noelle Otts from Episode 76 of the podcast (February 2020)