In this episode I’m joined by the amazing Andrea McLean. If you’re in the UK, you’ll have seen Andrea on TV as part of the Loose Women panel! She’s done some incredible things and written 3 incredible books.  No matter what our big goals are, whether that includes building a business at all, is the fact that we all just want to live our best lives and live happy lives. You can set goal after goal, but if you  don’t actually know what makes you happy, those goals become hollow and will never make you feel fulfilled.  In this chat, Andrea and I talk about:  Why we all need to do what it takes to live happy, good lives and thrive rather than settling for just existing. So many of us are stuck in a place of just existing and letting our life make decisions for us.  How we all have a pivot moment in our lives and how Andrea’s pivot moment involved jumping out of a helicopter and how that changed her life.  How Andrea experienced trauma in her personal life and buried them. There was a trigger. Felt like there was a tiger in the room all day long and a constant anxiety. Became physically ill - like many successful entrepreneurs, just kept going until burn out couldn’t run away from it all.  How she realised she no longer wanted some of the goals she had been chasing. How to align yourself with what brings you joy so that you can experience joy now rather than in the future.