Emma Ashford and Trevor Thrall chat with Peter Singer of New America about his new novel Burn In, and why fiction can be useful for our understanding of national security policy.  Peter Singer bio, https://www.newamerica.org/our-people/peter-warren-singer/ Burn In: A Novel of the Real Robotic Revolution, https://www.burninbook.com/Surveillance Takes Wing: Privacy in the Age of Police Drones, Matthew Feeney, https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/surveillance-takes-wing-privacy-age-police-dronesHow Drones are Changing Warfare, Cato Unbound, https://www.cato-unbound.org/issues/january-2012/how-drones-are-changing-warfare See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.