Patrick Porter joins Sahar Khan and Trevor Thrall to discuss the debate over the past, present, and future of the liberal international order. Porter is a professor of international security and strategy at the University of Birmingham, UK and a Senior Associate Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute in London. He researches how power and ideas shape U.S. and U.K. defense and foreign policy, and how both shape conflicts both the United States and United Kingdom are involved in.Patrick Porter bioPatrick Porter, “A World Imagined: Nostalgia and Liberal Order,” June 2018Patrick Porter, “Why America’s Grand Strategy Has Not Changed: Power, Habit, and the U.S. Foreign Policy Establishment,” International Security, May 4, 2018.“Liberal International Order: Past, Present, and Future,” Cato Event, September 20, 2018Bruce Jentleson, “The Post‐​Liberal International Order World: Some Core Characteristics,” Lawfare Blog, September 9, 2018Michael J. Mazarr, “The Real History of the Liberal Order: Neither Myth Nor Accident,” Foreign Affairs, August 7, 2018Rebecca Friedman Lissner and Mira Rapp‐​Hooper, “The Day After Trump: American Strategy for a New International Order,” The Washington Quarterly, June 2018Jake Sullivan, “The World After Trump: How the System Can Endure,” Foreign Affairs, March/​April 2018 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.