In this, the second episode covering Chapter 10 "A Dream of Socrates", we encounter Plato in dialogue with Socrates. An attempt is made to learn epistemology from Socrates by Plato. Epistemology is applied to political institutions and the concept of dynamic and static societies is explored and we get our first sense of what anti-rational memes are about (though this terminology is not yet being used). In the second half I compare and contrast kinds of democracy.