Nicole Forsgren grew up in a small farm town in Idaho. After working as a programmer, a software engineer, and a systems administrator at IBM, she went back to school to get her PhD in Management Information Systems. Now, she leads research and strategy at Google and oversees the production of the annual State of DevOps Report. Join Corey and Nicole as they discuss what the cloud is, how people define it and why we need a common definition for it, which organizations benefit from the cloud, why it’s largely time to ditch in-house tools, and more.