Nicole Forsgren grew up in a small farm town in Idaho. After working as a programmer, a software engineer, and a systems administrator at IBM, she went back to school to get her PhD in Management Information Systems. Now, she leads research and strategy at Google and oversees the production of the annual State of DevOps Report. Join Corey and Nicole as they discuss what it’s like to put together said reports, why people are so passionate about their DevOps team’s unique approach, the four metrics you can use to grade DevOps teams, how to scale DevOps teams, and more.