Beyond the Pledge is a limited podcast series, in partnership with R/GA and the 4A’s, that spotlights a variety of people with different perspectives on the current state of diversity, equity, and inclusion—and the work we still have left to do. Their tough and honest conversations will tear down myths and identify actionable ways in which we can hold brands and agencies accountable. Listeners will be equipped with the inspiration and knowledge needed to make critical, long-term and meaningful changes. On this episode of Beyond the Pledge, R/GA's VP, Global Executive Director, Culture & Operation Jai Tedeschi sat down with Marla Kaplowitz, CEO of the 4A’s, and Sean Lyons Global CEO of R/GA to discuss the importance of data transparency when it comes to creating a path towards an anti-racist culture.