Mike speaks with Daryl and Sara Van Tongeren on their recent book The Courage to Suffer. They discuss the origins of the book in Daryl and Sara’s personal loss, what an existential positive psychology framework is and why it’s particularly helpful in our current times, and implications for counseling practice. For more on Daryl & Sara, links from the conversation, and then APA citation for this episode visit www.thethoughtfulcounselor.com. The Thoughtful Counselor is created in partnership with Palo Alto University’s division of Continuing & Professional Studies. Learn more at www.paloaltou.edu/concept.