Dr. Lauren Shure, current president of Counselors for Social Justice, moderates a panel of counselor educators and community leaders including Dr. Ebony White, Mr. Darren Green. Dr. Darius Green, and Dr. Michael Hannon, on the counseling profession’s historic complicity with systemic racism, challenges and barriers counselors face when confronting white supremacy in our own lives and the helping professions at large, and how we can draw on our training as counselors to dismantling white supremacy and systemic racism in our lives, our profession, and the world around us.  For more on the panelists and moderator, links from the conversation, and then APA citation for this episode visit www.thethoughtfulcounselor.com The Thoughtful Counselor is created in partnership with Palo Alto University’s division of Continuing & Professional Studies. Learn more at www.paloaltou.edu/concept.