In this episode, Chris Hadnagy and Maxie Reynolds are joined by social engineering and insider threats expert: Lisa Forte. Learn how Lisa went from fighting terrorists and real-life sea pirates to being an expert on cybercrime and social engineering. Discover how scammers are taking advantage of global uncertainty and understand how to protect yourself from attack.    00:00 – Introduction to Lisa Forte  02:38 – Lisa's path to a career in social engineering  05:27 – The psychology that terrorists use to recruit teenagers  07:52 – Lisa's experience with fighting cyber crime  08:43 – Why Lisa named her cyber security company “Red Goat”  10:23 – The world pandemic made hospitals and their supply chains vulnerable to attack  14:38 – Keep secure by realizing the value of the information you possess   15:41 - How Cyber Volunteers 19 is helping to save lives by making hospitals secure. (twitter)  21:25 – Ego suspension is a required skill for a good social engineer  25:47 – Find someone who gives you honest feedback  27:28 – How Chris deals with harsh criticism  30:27 – New documentary: “hacker:HUNTER Ha(ck)cine” (Part 1) (Part 2)  34:44 – Lisa's Vlog: “Rebooting”  35:44 – Lisa's and Chris’s experience with exposure therapy.   40:00 – How scammers take advantage of global uncertainty  42:37 – Law enforcement has a big disadvantage when fighting cyber crime  45:42: Lisa’s Contact info:  LinkedIn  Website  Rebooting vlog with Chris  Twitter  46:56 – Lisa's Book recommendation  Prisoners Of Geography  50:20 – Outro  Social-Engineer.com    Social-Engineer.org    The Human Hacking Conference  The Innocent Lives Foundation    Human Hacking Book  Phishing As A Service®  Trainings:  Practical Open Source Intelligence For Everyday Social Engineers  11-12 November 2020 - VIRTUAL  Advanced Practical Social Engineering Training  17-20 November, 2020 - VIRTUAL