On this week’s show, we’re joined by Ryan “Cal” Callaghan and Phil the Engineer for a conversation on why we’re annoyed by Christmas, how to mentor new hunters, and where Phil might go for his first hunt. In the interview portion of the show we’re in Princeton to meet up with author and conservationist Tovar Cerulli to talk about his shift from vegan to hunter, his book “The Mindful Carnivore,” and what it means to accept change. Enjoy.   Connect with Ben and MeatEater Ben on Instagram and Twitter MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube Shop MeatEater Merch