John Gruber of Daring Fireball and The Talk Show joins me to follow up on Jony Ive leaving Apple, starting LoveFrom with Marc Newson, being hired by Apple, Evans Hankey and Alan Dye reporting into Jeff Williams, Sabih Khan becoming SVP of Operations, the future of Tim Cook, Jony's involvement over the last few years, Jony's hardware vs. software chops, and what may happen in the near future with Apple design. SPONSOR: CuriosityStream - Stay curious Go to curiositystream.com/vector and enter the promo code ‘vector’ to start your membership completely free for the first 30 days. LINKS: John Gruber (@gruber) | Twitter Daring Fireball Daring Fireball: Jony Ive Is Leaving Apple Jony Ive Leaves Apple, Ive’s Legacy, The Post-Ive Apple – Stratechery by Ben Thompson The Essence of Apple’s Decision | Asymco MORE: Merch: https://standard.tv/vector Gear: https://kit.com/reneritchie Podcast: http://applepodcasts.com/vector Twitter: https://twitter.com/reneritchie Instagram: https://instagram.com/reneritchie Mobile Nations Affiliate Link Policy SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts Overcast Pocket Casts Castro RSS YouTube