Matias Duarte is one of the most important and influential designers in technology, particularly when it comes to mobile. He's also a VP at Google leading up some of the company's biggest and boldest design efforts. He joins Josh in the studio for a thorough discussion on his process, the evolution of the smartphone, how you make hard design decisions, what part he played in the recent redesign of the Google logo... and so much more. It would be enough to just hear these two go deep on the way things work (and how they look doing it), but there's even a bit of news buried in this engaging and enlightening episode. Do not miss it.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices