Iran and Pakistan are likely to be the sites of foreign policy flashpoints under the Obama Administration, but do we understand each country well enough to take the best approach? David Brancaccio sits down with author and journalist Tariq Ali, who grew up in Pakistan; and Tehran-born author Hooman Majd for unique insight into our thorny diplomatic, cultural, and political relations with each country. Obama will undoubtedly be put to the test, but how should he respond?