Some precocious policy wonks take a deep dive into the evolving trends and future directions for our primary care workforce. Experts, Dr. Fatima Syed and Dr. Deep Shah return to school us on Physician Supply and Demand, the Access Gap, role of NPs and PAs, Retail Clinics, and Managed Care Clinics. ACP members can visit https://acponline.org/curbsiders to claim free CME-MOC credit for this episode and show notes (goes live 0900 EST). Catch up on our previous discussions with Dr. Syed and Dr. Shah: Episode #62: Pod Save Health Care: The Curbsiders Foray into health policy and Episode #120 Health Policy, Patients, Payments, Paperwork for more context. We also did an overview of health care policy essentials with Dr. Sue Bornstein in Episode #64: Stuff You Should Know About Health Policy Full show notes available at http://thecurbsiders.com/episode-list. Join our mailing list and receive a PDF copy of our show notes every Monday. Rate us on iTunes, recommend a guest or topic and give feedback at thecurbsiders@gmail.com. Credits Written and produced by: Fatima Syed MD, MSc; Deep Shah MD, MSc CME questions by: Chris Chiu MD, Beth Garbitelli MS1, Hosts: Stuart Brigham MD, Paul Williams MD, Matthew Watto MD, Images and infographics: Beth Garbitelli MS1 Edited by: Matthew Watto MD, Chris Chiu MD Guest: Fatima Syed MD, MSc, Deep Shah MD, MSc   Time Stamps 00:00 Disclaimer, intro, guest bios 04:40 Picks of the week 11:40 Defining physician supply and demand 21:30 Why are physicians less productive? 28:23 What does the supply demand mismatch mean for patients? 30:19 Discussion of various care delivery models (retails health clinics, minutes clinics, urgent care centers) 42:15 Physician compensation 53:50 Take home points from Fatima and Deep 59:39 Outro