Hey podcast. For those of you who know Phil Toronto, you know how much I adore him and how close we've gotten over the last 10 years. Today's episode is episode 5 from Phil's new podcast The Tartare Project (https://open.spotify.com/show/77Ax5y12flIqqOcWKWwYcf). We talked about the importance of sleep, our story of how we got to where we are today and some never before told funny stories from over the years. Really hope you enjoy this episode and tweet us at @garyvee & @philtoronto we your thoughts :) If you’ve been to 4Ds and have any feedback for this community tweet me @garyvee and for more info on the program email nick@thesashagroup.com with the month you’d like to attend.