The Unity of Everything: A Conversation with David Bohm

By Nish Dubashia

What happens when a Buddhist mystic meets one of the world's greatest living scientists to discuss the structure of reality and its relation to the process of spiritual enlightenment?

In January 1991, Nish Dubashia, a young student of Buddhist meditation and mysticism, was invited by Professor David Bohm, one of the greatest theoretical physicists of the twentieth century and the man whom Einstein believed was his intellectual successor, to Birkbeck College in London to discuss Dubashia's thesis that a rather simple process of emergence and dissolution underlies reality, and that what physics is now also discovering in this regard is the same essential truth that underlies many of the surface differences between the great religious and mystical traditions of the world.

For the first time, Nish Dubashia is making available to the public the fascinating discussion that ensued.

What lies at the ground of all being?

How does the unity of the universe appear to us as a multiplicity of things and events?

Why is there so much conflict in the world?

This dialogue, and the models of reality which were discussed, at least made a promising start to answering these ultimate questions.

• Language: English
• Publisher: tredition
• Release date: Sep 18, 2018
• ISBN: 9783743996076

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PROLOGUE

In 1984, while a Mathematics student at Warwick University, I began to seriously practice Buddhist meditation under the guidance of various Buddhist monks who would periodically visit the university, a practice that would continue unabated for the next thirty-four years.

At this time, I also discovered the writings of the Indian mystic Jiddu Krishnamurti, whose teachings bore a strong resemblance to what I was learning and experiencing as a Buddhist. Krishnamurti’s descriptions of what he referred to as choiceless awareness mirrored almost exactly the techniques of Buddhist meditation (vipassana and zazen) that I was practicing.

Observe, and in that observation there is neither the observer nor the observed – there is only observation taking place. - Jiddu Krishnamurti (Fear and Pleasure, The Collected Works, Vol. X)

As a student of Applied Mathematics, I had a basic familiarity with the concepts of quantum mechanics, and I began to notice certain similarities between some of the findings of quantum physics and some of the insights and teachings of Mahayana Buddhism, the school of Buddhism to which I was the most attracted.

For example:

All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force… We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.

– Max Planck (Originator of Quantum Theory)

Soon after this, I discovered the writings of David Bohm, one of the greatest living physicists and quantum theorists, who was developing a theory of reality in which, like Krishnamurti had already asserted, the observer and the observed were deeply interconnected, and like in Mahayana Buddhism, the whole of the manifest universe emerges or arises out of a deeper order of reality or wholeness in which both consciousness and matter find their common ground.

In the enfolded [or implicate] order, space and time are no longer the dominant factors determining the relationships of dependence or independence of different elements. Rather, an entirely different sort of basic connection of elements is possible, from which our ordinary notions of space and time, along with those of separately existent material particles, are abstracted as forms derived from the deeper order. These ordinary notions in fact appear in what is called the explicate or unfolded order, which is a special and distinguished form contained within the general totality of all the implicate orders – David Bohm, Wholeness and the Implicate Order.